Re: The Machines Rule (was: Re: Damn The Machines!!!!)

From: Steve Catanzaro (stevencatanzaro@sprintmail.com)
Date: Sun Nov 26 2000 - 05:56:13 CET

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    Hey Elson!

    re: 7-8 guys being a pain in the a** to work with. Well, look at the
    Beatles, as a perfect example. There's 4 guys, who, after a while, couldn't
    get along. But I think it's generally agreed that individually, they haven't
    been able to produce what they did as a group.

    Even though doing it yourself can be fun, (I'm talking music making, here),
    it seems to me the emphasis on the one-man producer-musician takes some of
    the interaction (i.e. chemistry) out of it. This seems especially true with
    jazz. In fact, Ellington was the master at getting individuals to relate
    together in a group setting.

    As for retro vs. the future. Yeah, I think looking back, ala the Acid Jazz
    movement, may in fact be dead... but, I wonder if the real problems lie in
    the fact that there just aren't alot of real creative musicians playing
    instruments other than sampler right now. Is learning saxophone, or piano,
    etc., a dead end these days?

    Or then again, maybe people just don't know how to appreciate real
    musicians? I mean, Charlie Hunter is just too bad... how many records is he
    selling? And, if not many, is that his fault, our fault, or both?

    BTW, isn't it wierd that so many "categories" of music are defined solely by
    the rhythm programming alone? (2-Step, Happy Hardcore, Garage,
    blahblahblah.) It's as if the programming has transcended all else; melody,
    harmony, etc.

    Back in the day, Chopin wrote "waltzes" and "mazurkas" which were pieces
    dictated by the rhythm. But, his personal stamp was undeniable. You can tell
    its him in the first few notes. Are we getting as many "personal" musical
    statements nowadays?

    Still raging against machines as I chop, slice, cut and paste,
    Steve (an e-trinity fan, btw)



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