Re: The Machines Rule (was: Re: Damn The Machines!!!!)

From: 21st century soul (emote@pacbell.net)
Date: Sun Nov 26 2000 - 13:28:42 CET

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    > As for retro vs. the future. Yeah, I think looking back, ala the Acid Jazz
    > movement, may in fact be dead... but, I wonder if the real problems lie in
    > the fact that there just aren't alot of real creative musicians playing
    > instruments other than sampler right now. Is learning saxophone, or piano,
    > etc., a dead end these days?

    great musicians today are playing their studios, not just their samplers....

    > Or then again, maybe people just don't know how to appreciate real
    > musicians? I mean, Charlie Hunter is just too bad... how many records is
    he
    > selling? And, if not many, is that his fault, our fault, or both?

    well in order to reach a mass audience (on a LARGE scale) one must appeal to
    the lowest common denominator.

    > BTW, isn't it wierd that so many "categories" of music are defined solely
    by
    > the rhythm programming alone? (2-Step, Happy Hardcore, Garage,
    > blahblahblah.) It's as if the programming has transcended all else;
    melody,
    > harmony, etc.

    not true. with all three of those genres each has a distinct vibe, emotional
    content, structure, melodies, rhythmic characteristics and even vocal
    content. the edges are blurred, but that's the beauty of it, i think...

    > Back in the day, Chopin wrote "waltzes" and "mazurkas" which were pieces
    > dictated by the rhythm. But, his personal stamp was undeniable. You can
    tell
    > its him in the first few notes. Are we getting as many "personal" musical
    > statements nowadays?

    HELL yeah. I know a MJ Cole song when I hear it. Same goes for Luke Vibert,
    Big Bud, Plaid, Ian O'Brien, and on and on and on.

    in fact, if you're looking for forward-thought in electronic music you
    really should be listening to people like O'Brien, Kirk Degiorgio and I.G.
    Culture. great electronic music that manages to be danceable but with a big
    human improvisatory element as well....

    mikebee



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