Re: hip hop

From: Joni . (bigorangecat@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Jul 09 2001 - 20:27:16 CEST

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    ""Is puff Daddy Hip Hop? or wu-tang clan (spelling??) Eminent??can anyone
    give me
    some curent names for hip hop,

    Eminem and Puffy is what I consider Hip-Pop =P

    other old schoolers

    Supreme Team
    Funky Four + One
    Pumkin
    MC Shan
    Afrika Bambada

    and the godfather of it all....James Brown

    ohh watch the movie Beatstreet for an idea of how it all began.

    East Coast Parties the Most,

    j~
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    >From: "Shawn H Kuo"
    >To:
    >Subject: hip hop
    >Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 13:50:48 +0800
    >
    >Too all,
    >
    >Sorry, it¡¦s not Aj related.
    >
    >Can anyone suggest any hip hop album or readings? I always link hip hop with rap, baggy costume, gold chains and foul language. I would really like to change my bias and give a listen to this genre of music.
    >
    >Please advice,
    >
    >respects,

    >sz

     

    its real hard to suggest specific albums that represent hip hop well because hip hop covers a lot of area.  i don't think that rap, baggy costume, gold chains and foul language are all bad things, but then again thats a part of the culture that i accept.  although hip hop transcends these images BY FAR, baggy clothes, jewlery and foul language are not wrong images... its the public's perception of these things.  in fact dare i say its the most intelligent music on the planet??? :)

    one major thing you should know is that hip hop covers all aspects of music and is influential in much of the music discussed in this acid-jazz mailing list. in fact, i don't know that acid-jazz would be what it is at all without hip hop and hip hop culture.  also, i very much agree that to understand hip hop you've got to hear some of the earlier stuff which would take a while to get into in itself.

    some current artists/groups i recommend are (and this is just my taste):

    The Roots
    Aceyalone, Freestyle Fellowship
    Mike Ladd
    Living Legends crew (just about anybody associated with them)
    Jeru the Damaja
    2 Pac
    Outkast (especially the album Aquemini)
    Saul Williams
    Ursula Rucker
    Bahamadia

    there are really so many more, but those are some i personally enjoy. it's like trying to give a few recommendations for dance music in general.  one thing i think is really important to understand is that hip hop is more than a music... it is an entire culture.  here in southern california more people are listening to hip hop than anything else.  you hear hip hop coming out of more cars on the street, more apartment windows and in more malls than ever before.  Everyone from 2 years old to 50 years old is listening to it.  Plenty of peoples' parents even listen to it (not ! the 'underground' stuff mentioned so far, but still hip hop).

     
    ""Is puff Daddy Hip Hop? or wu-tang clan (spelling??) Eminent??can anyone give me
    some curent names for hip hop, so i can relatd the imageto the music. I'll
    startwith blackalicious.; )hefner and groove armada, a bit of hip hop????""

    yes, in a way puff daddy is hip hop.  but no, he is not a good representation off hip hop.  Wu tang clan is definitely hip hop (don't let the image fool you- some of these guys are brilliant by any standard).  Eminem is hip hop as well but again i dont know how representative he is off the genre as a whole.  Blackaclicious is very dope and i recommend him and anything else associated with Quannum. I dont know much about Hefner or Groove Armada to speak on them but as said before plenty of musicians incorporate hip hop.  Is it just me or is drum n bass a combination of hip hop and dub (reggae)?   I recently have heard a lot of uk hardcore from the early90's and the beats are hip hop as well. Hell, u.s. techno sometimes sounds hip hop to me!  Now that I think about it... a LOT of acid-jazz, nu jazz stuff is influenced from hip hop.  anyway, i think you get a good idea.  good luck catching up... all of the artists mentioned b! y others so far will lead you in the right direction. 

     

    Beau J. Young



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