hmmm....
Puffy is Rap and Pop
Eminem is Pop, but would definitely be considered hip-hop as well
Hip Hop is more like...Mos Def, Pharoahe Monch, KRS ONE, Brand Nubian,
Jungle Brothers, De La Soul, Pete Rock and CL Smooth
then there is the gangsta and horrorcore variety like NWA, Dr. Dre, Snoop
Dogg, Geto Boys, ScareFace
then there is hip hop metal or metal hip hop Rage Against the Machine,
Insane Clown Posse, Limp Bizkit, Korn
Jay Z, Nelly, Ja Rule, and other folks like this that you can view on MTV or
BET all day are considered hip/hop - Rap
the best stuff is the underground stuff though...or the eclectic stuff, what
they call alternative hip hop
The Fugees, Lauryn Hill, Wyclef, Q-Tip, Beastie Boys
The hip hop list is endless, depends on how you want to cut it up or what
style you are interested in listening to
lots of acid jazz, trip hop, has rhyming or scratching in it as does a lot
of alternative music...
Beck was heavily influenced by hip-hop
As was
Portishead
Tricky
Massive Attack
and these lists go on and on and on
other books to peep
Black Noise by Tricia Rose
and another one called Droppin' Science
the new beats is also good
this list goes on and on and on also
From: "Joni ." <bigorangecat@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 14:27:16 -0400
To: bjy07@hotmail.com, kuo_shawn@hotmail.com
Cc: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
Subject: Re: hip hop
""Is puff Daddy Hip Hop? or wu-tang clan (spelling??) Eminent??can anyone
give me
some curent names for hip hop,
Eminem and Puffy is what I consider Hip-Pop =P
other old schoolers
Supreme Team
Funky Four + One
Pumkin
MC Shan
Afrika Bambada
and the godfather of it all....James Brown
ohh watch the movie Beatstreet for an idea of how it all began.
East Coast Parties the Most,
j~
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From: "Beau Young" <bjy07@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 10:37:50 -0700
To: kuo_shawn@hotmail.com
Cc: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
Subject: Re: hip hop
>From: "Shawn H Kuo"
>To:
>Subject: hip hop
>Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 13:50:48 +0800
>
>Too all,
>
>Sorry, it¡|s not Aj related.
>
>Can anyone suggest any hip hop album or readings? I always link hip hop with
rap, baggy costume, gold chains and foul language. I would really like to
change my bias and give a listen to this genre of music.
>
>Please advice,
>
>respects,
>sz
its real hard to suggest specific albums that represent hip hop well because
hip hop covers a lot of area. i don't think that rap, baggy costume, gold
chains and foul language are all bad things, but then again thats a part of
the culture that i accept. although hip hop transcends these images BY FAR,
baggy clothes, jewlery and foul language are not wrong images... its the
public's perception of these things. in fact dare i say its the most
intelligent music on the planet??? :)
one major thing you should know is that hip hop covers all aspects of music
and is influential in much of the music discussed in this acid-jazz mailing
list. in fact, i don't know that acid-jazz would be what it is at all
without hip hop and hip hop culture. also, i very much agree that to
understand hip hop you've got to hear some of the earlier stuff which would
take a while to get into in itself.
some current artists/groups i recommend are (and this is just my taste):
The Roots
Aceyalone, Freestyle Fellowship
Mike Ladd
Living Legends crew (just about anybody associated with them)
Jeru the Damaja
2 Pac
Outkast (especially the album Aquemini)
Saul Williams
Ursula Rucker
Bahamadia
there are really so many more, but those are some i personally enjoy. it's
like trying to give a few recommendations for dance music in general. one
thing i think is really important to understand is that hip hop is more than
a music... it is an entire culture. here in southern california more people
are listening to hip hop than anything else. you hear hip hop coming out of
more cars on the street, more apartment windows and in more malls than ever
before. Everyone from 2 years old to 50 years old is listening to it.
Plenty of peoples' parents even listen to it (not ! the 'underground' stuff
mentioned so far, but still hip hop).
""Is puff Daddy Hip Hop? or wu-tang clan (spelling??) Eminent??can anyone
give me
some curent names for hip hop, so i can relatd the imageto the music. I'll
startwith blackalicious.; )hefner and groove armada, a bit of hip hop????""
yes, in a way puff daddy is hip hop. but no, he is not a good
representation off hip hop. Wu tang clan is definitely hip hop (don't let
the image fool you- some of these guys are brilliant by any standard).
Eminem is hip hop as well but again i dont know how representative he is off
the genre as a whole. Blackaclicious is very dope and i recommend him and
anything else associated with Quannum. I dont know much about Hefner or
Groove Armada to speak on them but as said before plenty of musicians
incorporate hip hop. Is it just me or is drum n bass a combination of hip
hop and dub (reggae)? I recently have heard a lot of uk hardcore from the
early90's and the beats are hip hop as well. Hell, u.s. techno sometimes
sounds hip hop to me! Now that I think about it... a LOT of acid-jazz, nu
jazz stuff is influenced from hip hop. anyway, i think you get a good idea.
good luck catching up... all of the artists mentioned b! y others so far
will lead you in the right direction.
Beau J. Young
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