I disagree my way of looking at it is like this:
rap = is process of putting speech in a rhythmic sense over music
hip-hop = is a musical style, typically between 70-100bpm, usually with
syncopated bassdrum patterns.
Therefore rap-music can cover any kind of rubbish - rap over pop/funk (ie.
p. diddy/w. smith),
rap over r&b or metal.
Personally I love hip-hop - but for me Puff Daddy is not a hip-hop artist,
simply because
the music he raps over is not recognisably in the hip-hop genre. On the
other hand Snopp Dogg and other Death Row or Dre productions are quite
recognisably hip-hop.
Anyway I agree with the discenting voices - I love hip-hop but this is an
"Acid Jazz" list (whatever that means!).
-----Original Message-----
From: Beau Young [mailto:bjy07@hotmail.com]
Sent: 11 July 2001 06:53
To: kgoodale@stic.net
Cc: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
Subject: Re: hip hop top 10 / in my case
>From: "Keith Goodale" I was wondering what the
>distinction is between hip hop and rap. I noticed that several artists fall
>into both categories and I would like to know how to distinguish between
the
>two. Thanks for any information.
>
>Keith Goodale
oooh, this is a good one. in my mind rap IS hip hop... rap is like a
sub-genre of hip hop and also a sub-genre of funk and soul which are the
main elements of "rap", production wise. Rap usually refers to hip hop with
a more gangster feel to it. Hip hop (as mentioned so far in this group)
tends to be more mental while rap is more often emotional, extremely funky
and often violent or rude. Some quality rap artists include Scarface, Ice
Cube, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, and Master P. The lyrics mostly focus on
partying, women, smoking, drinking, money and street conflicts. The sound is
heavy heavy funk and 60's, 70's soul music, oh and super heavy on the bass.
This is not *at all* to say 'rap' music can not be mental... anyone who is
familiar with scarface, earlier stuff by ice cube and early Outkast knows
the two are compatible... .its just matter of what the individual hip hop
artists has! been exposed to. Hope that helps some.
Beau J Young
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Patrik Hamberg
>To:
>Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 1:26 AM
>Subject: hip hop top 10 / in my case
>
>
>since I love lists and have been reading all of yours with great
>pleasure the last couple of days, here's my hip hop top 10:
>
>1. Public Enemy "It takes a nation of millions to hold us back"
>2. Beastie Boys "Check Your Head"
>3. N.W.A. "Straight Outta Compton"
>4. Dr Dre "The Chronic"
>5. Wu-Tang Clan "36 Chambers"
>6. Gang Starr "Moment of Truth"
>7. Fugees "The Score"
>8. De La Soul "...is Dead"
>9. Ice Cube "The Predator"
>0. 2Pac "All Eyeys on Me"
>
>And ten that could have made it to the top ten:
>
>Run DMC "Raising Hell"
>A Tribe Called Quest "The Love Movement"
>Jurassic 5 "LP"
>Warren G "Regulate... G-Funk Era"
>Mos Def "Black on Both Sides"
>Missy Misdemeneaor Elliott "Supa Dupa Fly"
>The Roots "Come Alive"
>Common "Like Water for Chocolate"
>Lil Kim "Notorious Kim"
>MOP "Warriorz"
>
>In my CD case (24 slots):
>
>1. Case "Open Letter"
>2. Ky-Mani Marley "Many More Roads"
>3. Lil Mo "Based on a true story"
>4. Empty
>5. Empty
>6. Empty
>7. CMJ New Music May 2001
>8. Empty
>9. Empty
>10. Empty
>11. Empty
>12. Empty
>13. Empty
>14. Empty
>15. Fre "Välkommen till Fre"
>16. The Barbwires "...Sounds Like Trouble"
>17. The Peepshows "Tomorrow We Die... Today We Kill"
>18. Ugly Duckling "Journey to Anywhere"
>19. The Stooges "Fun House"
>20. Michael Franti & Spearhead "Stay Human"
>21. Urga "Urgasm"
>22. Talib Kweli & Hi-Tek "Reflection Eternal"
>23. Mos Def & Talib Kweli are Black Star
>24. Fint Tillsammans "En Världsomsegling"
>--
>
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