yeah...sorry about that...
--- rw: fresh <rob1@audiogalaxy.com>; wrote:
> you forgot about beat-boxing...
> /rob
>
> helen szirtes wrote:
>
> > Not wishing to harp on the hip hop theme, but
> here's a
> > little further clarification:
> >
> > hip hop is a word that describes an essentially
> > African American street culture that developed in
> the
> > 1970s and which compromises several distinct
> > components: djing (as in the rise of djs and
> artists
> > and technicians, rapping (as in speaking
> rhythmically
> > over a beat), breakdancing and graffiti writing
> > (although graffiti as an art form had been around
> for
> > some time previous). Out of this culture came a
> music,
> > also called hip hop, which itself may have
> distinct
> > styles. The separate components of hip hop culture
> can
> > be borrowed and used in other styles and forms -
> hence
> > rap (which I see as a musical method rather than a
> > musical style), can be found used in the most
> unlikely
> > (some would say unsuitable) places.
> >
> > If anyone is curious about how to define musical
> > styles, I suggest they take a peek at
> artistdirect.com
> > and browse the many hundreds of genres they have
> > there, most of which come with a little definition
> > which may not always be 100% accurate, but is
> > interesting at any rate.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- "Szirtes, Thomas" <SzirtesT@soe.sega.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > > I disagree my way of looking at it is like this:
> > >
> > > rap = is process of putting speech in a rhythmic
> > > sense over music
> > > hip-hop = is a musical style, typically between
> > > 70-100bpm, usually with
> > > syncopated bassdrum patterns.
> > >
> > > Therefore rap-music can cover any kind of
> rubbish -
> > > rap over pop/funk (ie.
> > > p. diddy/w. smith),
> > > rap over r&b or metal.
> > >
> > > Personally I love hip-hop - but for me Puff
> Daddy is
> > > not a hip-hop artist,
> > > simply because
> > > the music he raps over is not recognisably in
> the
> > > hip-hop genre. On the
> > > other hand Snopp Dogg and other Death Row or Dre
> > > productions are quite
> > > recognisably hip-hop.
> > >
> > > Anyway I agree with the discenting voices - I
> love
> > > hip-hop but this is an
> > > "Acid Jazz" list (whatever that means!).
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Beau Young [mailto:bjy07@hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: 11 July 2001 06:53
> > > To: kgoodale@stic.net
> > > Cc: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
> > > Subject: Re: hip hop top 10 / in my case
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Keith Goodale" I was wondering what the
> > > >distinction is between hip hop and rap. I
> noticed
> > > that several artists fall
> > >
> > > >into both categories and I would like to know
> how
> > > to distinguish between
> > > the
> > > >two. Thanks for any information.
> > > >
> > >
> > > >Keith Goodale
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > oooh, this is a good one. in my mind rap IS hip
> > > hop... rap is like a
> > > sub-genre of hip hop and also a sub-genre of
> funk
> > > and soul which are the
> > > main elements of "rap", production wise. Rap
> > > usually refers to hip hop with
> > > a more gangster feel to it. Hip hop (as
> mentioned
> > > so far in this group)
> > > tends to be more mental while rap is more often
> > > emotional, extremely funky
> > > and often violent or rude. Some quality rap
> artists
> > > include Scarface, Ice
> > > Cube, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, and Master P. The
> lyrics
> > > mostly focus on
> > > partying, women, smoking, drinking, money and
> street
> > > conflicts. The sound is
> > > heavy heavy funk and 60's, 70's soul music, oh
> and
> > > super heavy on the bass.
> > > This is not *at all* to say 'rap' music can not
> be
> > > mental... anyone who is
> > > familiar with scarface, earlier stuff by ice
> cube
> > > and early Outkast knows
> > > the two are compatible... .its just matter of
> what
> > > the individual hip hop
> > > artists has! been exposed to. Hope that helps
> some.
> > >
> > >
> > > Beau J Young
> > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > >From: Patrik Hamberg
> > > >To:
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 1:26 AM
> > > >Subject: hip hop top 10 / in my case
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >since I love lists and have been reading all of
> > > yours with great
> > > >pleasure the last couple of days, here's my hip
> hop
> > > top 10:
> > > >
> > > >1. Public Enemy "It takes a nation of millions
> to
> > > hold us back"
> > > >2. Beastie Boys "Check Your Head"
> > > >3. N.W.A. "Straight Outta Compton"
> > > >4. Dr Dre "The Chronic"
> > > >5. Wu-Tang Clan "36 Chambers"
> > > >6. Gang Starr "Moment of Truth"
> > > >7. Fugees "The Score"
> > > >8. De La Soul "...is Dead"
> > > >9. Ice Cube "The Predator"
> > > >0. 2Pac "All Eyeys on Me"
> > > >
> > > >And ten that could have made it to the top ten:
> > > >
> > > >Run DMC "Raising Hell"
> > > >A Tribe Called Quest "The Love Movement"
> > > >Jurassic 5 "LP"
> > > >Warren G "Regulate... G-Funk Era"
> > > >Mos Def "Black on Both Sides"
> > > >Missy Misdemeneaor Elliott "Supa Dupa Fly"
> > > >The Roots "Come Alive"
> > > >Common "Like Water for Chocolate"
> > > >Lil Kim "Notorious Kim"
> > > >MOP "Warriorz"
> > > >
> > > >In my CD case (24 slots):
> > > >
> > > >1. Case "Open Letter"
> > > >2. Ky-Mani Marley "Many More Roads"
> > > >3. Lil Mo "Based on a true story"
> > > >4. Empty
> > > >5. Empty
> > > >6. Empty
> > > >7. CMJ New Music May 2001
> > > >8. Empty
> > > >9. Empty
> > > >10. Empty
> > > >11. Empty
>
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