you forgot about beat-boxing...
/rob
helen szirtes wrote:
> Not wishing to harp on the hip hop theme, but here's a
> little further clarification:
>
> hip hop is a word that describes an essentially
> African American street culture that developed in the
> 1970s and which compromises several distinct
> components: djing (as in the rise of djs and artists
> and technicians, rapping (as in speaking rhythmically
> over a beat), breakdancing and graffiti writing
> (although graffiti as an art form had been around for
> some time previous). Out of this culture came a music,
> also called hip hop, which itself may have distinct
> styles. The separate components of hip hop culture can
> be borrowed and used in other styles and forms - hence
> rap (which I see as a musical method rather than a
> musical style), can be found used in the most unlikely
> (some would say unsuitable) places.
>
> If anyone is curious about how to define musical
> styles, I suggest they take a peek at artistdirect.com
> and browse the many hundreds of genres they have
> there, most of which come with a little definition
> which may not always be 100% accurate, but is
> interesting at any rate.
>
>
>
> --- "Szirtes, Thomas" <SzirtesT@soe.sega.co.uk> wrote:
> > I disagree my way of looking at it is like this:
> >
> > rap = is process of putting speech in a rhythmic
> > sense over music
> > hip-hop = is a musical style, typically between
> > 70-100bpm, usually with
> > syncopated bassdrum patterns.
> >
> > Therefore rap-music can cover any kind of rubbish -
> > rap over pop/funk (ie.
> > p. diddy/w. smith),
> > rap over r&b or metal.
> >
> > Personally I love hip-hop - but for me Puff Daddy is
> > not a hip-hop artist,
> > simply because
> > the music he raps over is not recognisably in the
> > hip-hop genre. On the
> > other hand Snopp Dogg and other Death Row or Dre
> > productions are quite
> > recognisably hip-hop.
> >
> > Anyway I agree with the discenting voices - I love
> > hip-hop but this is an
> > "Acid Jazz" list (whatever that means!).
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Beau Young [mailto:bjy07@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: 11 July 2001 06:53
> > To: kgoodale@stic.net
> > Cc: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
> > Subject: Re: hip hop top 10 / in my case
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Keith Goodale" I was wondering what the
> > >distinction is between hip hop and rap. I noticed
> > that several artists fall
> >
> > >into both categories and I would like to know how
> > to distinguish between
> > the
> > >two. Thanks for any information.
> > >
> >
> > >Keith Goodale
> >
> >
> >
> > oooh, this is a good one. in my mind rap IS hip
> > hop... rap is like a
> > sub-genre of hip hop and also a sub-genre of funk
> > and soul which are the
> > main elements of "rap", production wise. Rap
> > usually refers to hip hop with
> > a more gangster feel to it. Hip hop (as mentioned
> > so far in this group)
> > tends to be more mental while rap is more often
> > emotional, extremely funky
> > and often violent or rude. Some quality rap artists
> > include Scarface, Ice
> > Cube, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, and Master P. The lyrics
> > mostly focus on
> > partying, women, smoking, drinking, money and street
> > conflicts. The sound is
> > heavy heavy funk and 60's, 70's soul music, oh and
> > super heavy on the bass.
> > This is not *at all* to say 'rap' music can not be
> > mental... anyone who is
> > familiar with scarface, earlier stuff by ice cube
> > and early Outkast knows
> > the two are compatible... .its just matter of what
> > the individual hip hop
> > artists has! been exposed to. Hope that helps some.
> >
> >
> > Beau J Young
> >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> >
> > >From: Patrik Hamberg
> > >To:
> > >Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 1:26 AM
> > >Subject: hip hop top 10 / in my case
> > >
> > >
> > >since I love lists and have been reading all of
> > yours with great
> > >pleasure the last couple of days, here's my hip hop
> > top 10:
> > >
> > >1. Public Enemy "It takes a nation of millions to
> > hold us back"
> > >2. Beastie Boys "Check Your Head"
> > >3. N.W.A. "Straight Outta Compton"
> > >4. Dr Dre "The Chronic"
> > >5. Wu-Tang Clan "36 Chambers"
> > >6. Gang Starr "Moment of Truth"
> > >7. Fugees "The Score"
> > >8. De La Soul "...is Dead"
> > >9. Ice Cube "The Predator"
> > >0. 2Pac "All Eyeys on Me"
> > >
> > >And ten that could have made it to the top ten:
> > >
> > >Run DMC "Raising Hell"
> > >A Tribe Called Quest "The Love Movement"
> > >Jurassic 5 "LP"
> > >Warren G "Regulate... G-Funk Era"
> > >Mos Def "Black on Both Sides"
> > >Missy Misdemeneaor Elliott "Supa Dupa Fly"
> > >The Roots "Come Alive"
> > >Common "Like Water for Chocolate"
> > >Lil Kim "Notorious Kim"
> > >MOP "Warriorz"
> > >
> > >In my CD case (24 slots):
> > >
> > >1. Case "Open Letter"
> > >2. Ky-Mani Marley "Many More Roads"
> > >3. Lil Mo "Based on a true story"
> > >4. Empty
> > >5. Empty
> > >6. Empty
> > >7. CMJ New Music May 2001
> > >8. Empty
> > >9. Empty
> > >10. Empty
> > >11. Empty
> > >12. Empty
> > >13. Empty
> > >14. Empty
> > >15. Fre "Välkommen till Fre"
> > >16. The Barbwires "...Sounds Like Trouble"
> > >17. The Peepshows "Tomorrow We Die... Today We
> > Kill"
> > >18. Ugly Duckling "Journey to Anywhere"
> > >19. The Stooges "Fun House"
> > >20. Michael Franti & Spearhead "Stay Human"
> > >21. Urga "Urgasm"
> > >22. Talib Kweli & Hi-Tek "Reflection Eternal"
> > >23. Mos Def & Talib Kweli are Black Star
> > >24. Fint Tillsammans "En Världsomsegling"
> > >--
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