Re: [acid-jazz] tool requests was 21st Century

From: Stimp (stimp@aei.ca)
Date: Thu Aug 29 2002 - 22:55:57 CEST

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    I guess then that all of us should keep our opinions to ourselves, right?
    All music is good, nothing sucks!!!!! I will now rave about Celine Dion's
    mammoth contributions to music to appease those who might like her, and of
    course, to avoid "taste police" comments at all costs. Give me a break.
    You know what music groups without opinions are? Virtually nonexistent. I
    purposefully phrase my comments strongly as to incite discussion. Sitting
    on the fence my be more politically correct and will do much less to offend
    the delicate sensibilities of some, but it's boring as hell. As far as I'm
    concerned, I'd much rather hear a strongly worded opinion from someone who
    knows something than stomach PC drivel from anyone who prefers sitting on
    the fence. We all know music here, and I assume that we choose to stay
    subscribed to such a list because we generally WANT to hear what other
    listees have to say. I know I do.

    FLAME ON!!

    Stimp

    P.S. Perhaps you should stop reading books as well; they're full of
    opinions too.....

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Waiter, James" <jwaiter@chi.navtech.com>
    To: "'Stimp'" <stimp@aei.ca>; <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:58 PM
    Subject: RE: [acid-jazz] tool requests was 21st Century

    > You should have a badge that reads "Taste Police."
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Stimp [mailto:stimp@aei.ca]
    > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 10:30 PM
    > To: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
    > Subject: Re: [acid-jazz] tool requests was 21st Century
    >
    >
    > Y'know, I'm with Pace on this one; it seems that everyone sees even
    the
    > worst musical travesties with rose colored glasses once they age a few
    > decades. Disco had its revival, with the requisite weaned-on-radio fans
    > trumpeting the genius of Gloria Gaynor and Donna Summer. Now, the 80's are
    > experiencing a bit of a revival, and Kajagoogoo are being spoken of with
    > reverence. Fuck it, it sucked then, it still sucks now.
    >
    > There was ALWAYS a difference between what P-Funk and KC and the
    > Sunshine were doing, between what Elvis Costello and A Flock of Seagulls
    > did, and there always will be. That's why the greats still record and
    tour,
    > while the others get put on a show with William Shatner singing their
    > praises. DJ's looking for great old-skool beats are far more likely to
    find
    > them on a Rufus or Graham Central Station record than they are on a Teena
    > Marie K-Tel extravaganza.
    >
    > Frankly, I'm surprised that anyone on this list would even mention
    most
    > disco the viable musical choice of that era when there's TONS of great
    > Hip-Hop (Grandmaster Flash, Kurtis Blow, Sugarhill gang,etc... you all
    know
    > 'em) and Punk rock acts whose musical influence is still being felt 30
    years
    > later. Who'd KC or Teena Marie ever inluence? Sure, it's not all bad,
    but
    > most of it sucked ass and put musicians out of business. I ain't with
    that.
    > Throwaway music is just that, no matter how old it is. If not, I've got a
    > pile of Glen Miller and Pat Boone records I wanna sell you......
    >
    > Stimp
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Wm. ERROL PACE" <wm_errol_pace@hotmail.com>
    > To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:55 PM
    > Subject: Re: [acid-jazz] tool requests was 21st Century
    >
    >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > >I dunno, it doesn't seem that far fetched. When I saw DJ
    > > >Z-Trip, he spun a pretty eclectic but mostly hip hop and
    > > >funk set... AND he dropped AC/DC's "Back in Black", doubled
    > > >it up and did a bit of a beat juggle on that
    > > >ever-so-recogizable guitar riff.
    > >
    > > Ah Hah!!! Variety, the Spice of Life. I'll take DJ Krush's Code 4019's
    > > "Final Home" and then Led Zeppelin's "When the Levee Breaks" from Zofo.
    > Now
    > > that would be friggin' Good to Go, Funk doesn't just exist where one
    > thinks
    > > it would!!! Then The Cure "Fascination Street" into their version of
    Jimi
    > > Hendrix "Purple Haze" from the Stone Free Tribute. Then bust into some
    > The
    > > Grassy Knoll top it off with Billy Idol/Steve Stevens "Flesh for
    Fantasy"
    > > extended oh yeah add in Nils Petter Molvaer's "Khmer" now that would be
    > > nice. I'll take my Acid Downtempo with a Double Shot of Rock!!!
    > >
    > > Then, if memory serves, he
    > > >let in with an accapella of a Christina Aguilera track, of
    > > >all things. The crowd loved it. Not so completely out of
    > > >place as you might expect.
    > >
    > > I feel much better now, hopefully I am not condemned to 1977 Polyester
    > Hell.
    > > I think folks re missing a point I was making as well. Growing up
    > during
    > > the 70's really sucked in my area here in South Carolina. Closed
    Minded,
    > > the Disco-phile were militantly close minded. Me? Close Minded? I
    like
    > to
    > > say I'm selective. I know what I like and what I don't but then again
    > still
    > > being here in South Carolina one doesn't get the full exposure to a wide
    > > variety of music like in major metropolitan areas. I detested having
    > Disco
    > > pushed in my face when I was younger and I'm sure those folks detested
    > > having what I liked having shoved in their faces as well. Once again it
    > > comes around to variety is the Spice of Life.
    > >
    > > Maybe I was misunderstood a little but the Peace Pipe goes out to one
    and
    > > all who got bent.
    > >
    > > Semper Motociclismo,
    > >
    > > Pace'
    > >
    > > >
    > > >--- t-bird <djtbird1@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > > > > i think you guys are totally missing the point of what
    > > > > michael was trying to get across. it's not so much
    > > > > about tool in the absolute, but relative to what he
    > > > > was playing--funk or house. i own and love ac/dc's
    > > > > "back in black", but you'd be hard pressed to find it
    > > > > in my record box when i'm playing funk, or electronic
    > > > > music. it's just completely out of place.
    > > > > > -t
    > > >Marco Pringle, host of
    > > >the Fat Beat Diet - Thursday evenings, 10:30-Midnight
    > > >CJSW 90.9FM (Calgary) - in real audio at:
    > > >http://www.cjsw.com
    > > >
    > > >Hit you with the funk/It's like, who cut the provalone?
    > > > - Blackalicious
    > >
    > >
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