From: Olaf Molenveld (olaf@interactivelink.nl)
Date: Fri Aug 30 2002 - 09:42:53 CEST
a good tip: read the book "last night a DJ saved my life" it's very well
written...
imho disco was and is VERY influentual and important in the evolution of
music..it was a very natural and logical progression and it's been taken
further now into house, techno, nujazz etc.
producers like Patrick Adams, Patrick Cowley, Giorgio Moroder, Francois
Kevorkian, Gamble&Huff, Vincent Montana,Larry Levan etc. cannot be
ignored... i believe the list of good disco compilations (disco spectrum,
jumping etc.) is posted several times to this list..
Olaf
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan <dzacks@po-box.mcgill.ca>
To: Acid-Jazz Listserve <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 1:01 AM
Subject: RE: [acid-jazz] tool requests was 21st Century
> Perhaps you would be surprised to know that much on the Sugarhill label is
> considered a form of disco. Trouble Funk's "Drop the Bomb", for example,
is
> most certainly a work of disco-funk. And where do you think so many of
> early hiphop samples come from? To the quote the Furious Five, it's
nothing
> without the 'disco fluid'. Again, I suggest that you merely write without
> appreciating the true importance of disco. The massive influence of T.K.
> label style arrangements from the late seventies is abundantly apparent on
> more recent music, Faze Action for example. More to the point, the very
> notion of producing a record primarily for a dancefloor is product of
disco.
> You are right to dismiss pop disco (although Chic was much revered by the
> Clash) but you cannot dismiss disco without undermining contemporary dance
> music culture.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stimp [mailto:stimp@aei.ca]
> Sent: August 28, 2002 11:30 PM
> To: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
> Subject: Re: [acid-jazz] tool requests was 21st Century
>
>
> Y'know, I'm with Pace on this one; it seems that everyone sees even
the
> worst musical travesties with rose colored glasses once they age a few
> decades. Disco had its revival, with the requisite weaned-on-radio fans
> trumpeting the genius of Gloria Gaynor and Donna Summer. Now, the 80's are
> experiencing a bit of a revival, and Kajagoogoo are being spoken of with
> reverence. Fuck it, it sucked then, it still sucks now.
>
> There was ALWAYS a difference between what P-Funk and KC and the
> Sunshine were doing, between what Elvis Costello and A Flock of Seagulls
> did, and there always will be. That's why the greats still record and
tour,
> while the others get put on a show with William Shatner singing their
> praises. DJ's looking for great old-skool beats are far more likely to
find
> them on a Rufus or Graham Central Station record than they are on a Teena
> Marie K-Tel extravaganza.
>
> Frankly, I'm surprised that anyone on this list would even mention
most
> disco the viable musical choice of that era when there's TONS of great
> Hip-Hop (Grandmaster Flash, Kurtis Blow, Sugarhill gang,etc... you all
know
> 'em) and Punk rock acts whose musical influence is still being felt 30
years
> later. Who'd KC or Teena Marie ever inluence? Sure, it's not all bad,
but
> most of it sucked ass and put musicians out of business. I ain't with
that.
> Throwaway music is just that, no matter how old it is. If not, I've got a
> pile of Glen Miller and Pat Boone records I wanna sell you......
>
> Stimp
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wm. ERROL PACE" <wm_errol_pace@hotmail.com>
> To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [acid-jazz] tool requests was 21st Century
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > >I dunno, it doesn't seem that far fetched. When I saw DJ
> > >Z-Trip, he spun a pretty eclectic but mostly hip hop and
> > >funk set... AND he dropped AC/DC's "Back in Black", doubled
> > >it up and did a bit of a beat juggle on that
> > >ever-so-recogizable guitar riff.
> >
> > Ah Hah!!! Variety, the Spice of Life. I'll take DJ Krush's Code 4019's
> > "Final Home" and then Led Zeppelin's "When the Levee Breaks" from Zofo.
> Now
> > that would be friggin' Good to Go, Funk doesn't just exist where one
> thinks
> > it would!!! Then The Cure "Fascination Street" into their version of
Jimi
> > Hendrix "Purple Haze" from the Stone Free Tribute. Then bust into some
> The
> > Grassy Knoll top it off with Billy Idol/Steve Stevens "Flesh for
Fantasy"
> > extended oh yeah add in Nils Petter Molvaer's "Khmer" now that would be
> > nice. I'll take my Acid Downtempo with a Double Shot of Rock!!!
> >
> > Then, if memory serves, he
> > >let in with an accapella of a Christina Aguilera track, of
> > >all things. The crowd loved it. Not so completely out of
> > >place as you might expect.
> >
> > I feel much better now, hopefully I am not condemned to 1977 Polyester
> Hell.
> > I think folks re missing a point I was making as well. Growing up
> during
> > the 70's really sucked in my area here in South Carolina. Closed
Minded,
> > the Disco-phile were militantly close minded. Me? Close Minded? I
like
> to
> > say I'm selective. I know what I like and what I don't but then again
> still
> > being here in South Carolina one doesn't get the full exposure to a wide
> > variety of music like in major metropolitan areas. I detested having
> Disco
> > pushed in my face when I was younger and I'm sure those folks detested
> > having what I liked having shoved in their faces as well. Once again it
> > comes around to variety is the Spice of Life.
> >
> > Maybe I was misunderstood a little but the Peace Pipe goes out to one
and
> > all who got bent.
> >
> > Semper Motociclismo,
> >
> > Pace'
> >
> > >
> > >--- t-bird <djtbird1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > i think you guys are totally missing the point of what
> > > > michael was trying to get across. it's not so much
> > > > about tool in the absolute, but relative to what he
> > > > was playing--funk or house. i own and love ac/dc's
> > > > "back in black", but you'd be hard pressed to find it
> > > > in my record box when i'm playing funk, or electronic
> > > > music. it's just completely out of place.
> > > > > -t
> > >Marco Pringle, host of
> > >the Fat Beat Diet - Thursday evenings, 10:30-Midnight
> > >CJSW 90.9FM (Calgary) - in real audio at:
> > >http://www.cjsw.com
> > >
> > >Hit you with the funk/It's like, who cut the provalone?
> > > - Blackalicious
> >
> >
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