Re: Hey guys, help me settle a music argument

From: Christopher Grass (bluesjumper@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon May 20 2002 - 04:47:51 CEST

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    Hmmm...well, as far as I've understood it dues are paid to ASCAP and BMI, in
    order to be able to pay the artists royalties for when their songs are
    played. I know in the TV biz, there is such a thing as fair use, but the
    legalese is pretty complicated, dealing with what is played, and how long it
    is played for (take sporting events, for example). The sports producers I
    work with don't have to clear the music they put in their spots, but they
    are required to submit all the information about the snippet of song they
    use....same goes for tv stations. I do know that when a tune is used in a
    promo for a tv show, it has to be paid for...but that is usually more than a
    snippet of music...it's 30-60 seconds of a recognizable song. I also know
    clubs are supposed to pay ASCAP/BMI dues to cover the music their DJs play,
    but what happens when music is played that is not covered under ASCAP or
    BMI? Obviously the rules are tough to enforce, but I don't see how it's
    possible for someone who is throwing a rave to be able to follow these
    rules...I really hate the music biz.

    >From: t-bird <djtbird1@yahoo.com>
    >To: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
    >Subject: Re: Hey guys, help me settle a music argument
    >Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 18:54:57 -0700 (PDT)
    >
    > i'm sure that at a rave that royalties aren't paid,
    >or expected to be paid by anyone. in the case of
    >producer/djs, that would mean that they'd be getting 2
    >checks--one for spinning, another for the royalties
    >for their own tracks...
    >
    >the game is another matter. i know that when a dating
    >show for a major cable network was talking to me about
    >shooting at one of my gigs, they were trying to keep
    >the music obscured so they wouldn't have to clear it.
    >i would think the same applies to a broadcasted
    >game--but i don't know for sure.
    >
    >-t
    >
    >--- Stimp <stimp@aei.ca> wrote:
    > > Hope that everyone is enjoying their weekend. My
    > > buddies were over to watch the hockey game, and a
    > > discussion came up about whether a sports arena has
    > > to pay for the right to play the music that they
    > > play during the game. My buddy swears up and down
    > > that the people who own the arena don't have to pay
    > > royalties to whoever owns the rights to the song,
    > > while I'm pretty sure that they do. They argue that
    > > a band like Queen gets paid nothing for having "We
    > > will Rock You" played at every sporting event
    > > (assuming that Queen still owns the rights to the
    > > song), while I think they do. They didn't believe
    > > me, so I'm hoping that you guys could help settle
    > > this.
    > >
    > > Actually, maybe we could take it a little
    > > further. I know that many of you are Dj's so maybe
    > > you could answer this for me as well. When spinning
    > > for a big event like a rave, are the promoters of
    > > the event required to pay royalties for the music
    > > used during their event? In this case, I would
    > > assume that the answer would be no, given that it
    > > would probably be quite difficult to monitor. In
    > > any case, the output of anyone in the know would be
    > > greatly appreciated.
    > >
    > > Thanx,
    > >
    > > Stimp
    > >
    >
    >
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