BAO (tunde@arches.uga.edu)
Sun, 5 Dec 1999 16:57:10 -0500 (EST)
Your theory for america isnt not totally true, becaus ethere are too
many white hiphop Djs/producers (not as many MCs) in hiphop making some
really dope stuff.
Though I see what you are saying somewaht. i think geoff Barrow actually
said something like this in an interview i..e he tried hiphop and it didnt
work.
On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, angedella isafella wrote:
>
> dear list: the reason Brits lead in Trip hop and Jungle is because they
> suck at hop hip. Okay your a british guy you gotta sampler and some records
> .You know the moves(dj) and you love hip hop and being white(mostly) you
> like other stuff too. Now when you and your pasty friends go to make a
> record with brit raps .... YOU SUCK! SUCK Suck!
> You hate yourself > your Momma wont even applaud.
> well what to do ? Given the UKS culture of band stuff
> you form a band and incorporate the sound of hip hop into your band and
> Sing.Or you make instro tracks and dispense with raps. In the states white
> guys haven given up on trying to rap and they havent given up on metal.
> Giving you KOrn . In the uk you get Portishead. And a fine thing that is
> .TRULY! god love Necessity! itis the mother of (re) invention!
>
> >From: "Dirk van den Heuvel" <dirkv@groovedis.com>
> >To: "Jason Witherspoon" <arzachel@best.com>, "Moonlight"
> ><roesch@augsburg.edu>, <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
> >Subject: RE: downtempo in movies
> >Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 17:18:10 -0600
> >
> >Okay somewhere along here two different threads have crossed.
> >
> >Thread 1) Recommendations of good bands/artists. Yes they are many very
> >excellent America, French, etc bands doing jungle, trip hop and the like. I
> >never disagreed with this.
> >
> >Thread 2) Why are so many of the big bands used in tv commercials and the
> >like British? Why not US? My response was that they are not a lot (if any)
> >US bands doing music at the level respectively of Portishead/Massive Attack
> >(for trip hop), Goldie/Roni Size (jungle), Chemical Bros/Propellerheads
> >(big
> >beat). Erik makes a good point with DJ Shadow (who I even mentioned in my
> >original message as a maybe) and Thievery Corp are close (but no cigar
> >IMHO). But I still stick to my guns otherwise. Yes there are many good
> >American trip hoppers and junglists but no one has mentioned anyone at the
> >level of the people listed above. So while Hive's records are very good
> >they
> >are not in the same league as Massive Attack's "Protection" and Soulslinger
> >has yet to make a record anywhere near as good as New Forms. That's my
> >point. I wish it weren't so, but it is. Sorry. And we weren't talking about
> >turntablist music, where the US does indeed rule (just like rap and r&b).
> >
> >Okay there it is. I just want to make sure when I get flamed it's for the
> >right thread :>.
> >
> >Dirk van den Heuvel (dirkv@groovedis.com)
> >Groove Distribution
> >www.groovedis.com
> >Your Guide To The Underground
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jason Witherspoon [mailto:arzachel@best.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 4:21 PM
> >To: Moonlight; acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
> >Subject: RE: downtempo in movies
> >
> >
> >At 1:48 PM -0800 12/2/99, Moonlight wrote:
> > >American downtempo musicians?
> >
> >Hive _Working w/Sound_
> >Company Flow _Little Johnny from the Hospital_
> >_NY Vibeology_ (forget the dj's name, but it's not on the package anyway;
> >it's marketed as a comp).
> >DJ Wally _Genetically Engineered_ (is that the title?)
> >
> >DJ Shadow maybe comes close to Portishead & Massive Attack? In my book,
> >it's a different kind of music, if only for the vocal/instrumental split.
> >AND he (& the rest of the guys on this list) kick their ass anyways.
> >
> >Q-bert? Would he fit this niche? He's great.
> >
> > >
> > >American Jungle?
> > >I like DJ SoulSlinger and 1.8.7, though YMMV. DJ Spooky. We's
> >"sqrt(-1)."
> > >Ming & FS.
> > >Mocean worker is from NYC, right?
> >
> >Hive (again) _Devious Methods_
> >Pish Posh (aka DJ Wally, again) _Up Jumps the Boogie_ (great, underrated
> >album-- on a subdivision of Rawkus!)
> >
> >There's also a comp called Digital Dust on that same Rawkus subdivison
> >(Rawkuts?) which is pretty excellent.
> >
> >DJ Spooky & We could both be quoted as excellent examples of US "downtempo"
> >(sheez, let's go back to trip-hop) as well.
> >
> > >
> > >American Techno?
> > >Carl craig. Josh Wink.
> >
> >Not (thump) my (thump) cup (thump) of (thump) tea.
> >
> >No one's mentioned Taran's album as a "classic" of downtempo, which I'm
> >pretty sure I'd rate it as. Lots of Compost stuff, though I was kind of
> >underwhelmed by the A Forest Mighty Black full-length. Also:
> >
> >Vibert _Big Soup_
> >Up Bustle & Out & London Funk Allstars
> >Lionrock
> >_Bombay the Hard Way_
> >
> >I'd best stop now.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jason Witherspoon
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