christopherotto (cotto1@gl.umbc.edu)
Wed, 8 Dec 1999 18:03:30 -0800
i think that in america techno and jungle can often be offputting as they
are percieved in the mainstream media as being done completely done by rich
white boys with computers. of course this is completely untrue, but i know
of somepeople who said that they had always wanted to go to things formerly
known as raves but were wary being the only black person amongst 6000 white
teenagers. i am starting to see information flow better though and more
bridges be crossed though which is cool - though i think the internet hass
affected "underground" music negatively in many ways i think the increased
communication between musical cultures is definitely awesome.
wordup on the swedish techno tip. i was so close to getting some drumcodes
records over thanksgiving while i was in philly but ended up having to
return them so i would have enough to get home:( at least winter break is
only a few weeks off . related to that does anyone know of some good
hapenings in the city of brotherly love between the 24th and the 3rd? i'm
finally legal and really wanna checkout the nightlife i have been missing.
christopherotto
----- Original Message -----
From: stephanie <nnine@yahoo.com>
To: angedella isafella <notmusic@hotmail.com>
Cc: ajlist <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: URB
> I don't understand what you're saying. Can you
> clarify, please? Are you saying black people want
> nothing to do with jungle and techno? that doens't
> make any sense to me, since many innovators of both
> genres were(are) black, and that statement seems
> misguidedly hung up on race. Are you saying soul as a
> genre is unwilling or incapable of incorporating those
> influences?
>
> I think I'm totally confused and just don't get what
> you're saying.
>
> The real techno innovators are in SWEDEN!!!!! Mmmmm,
> delicious crunchy beats....Cari Lekebush... =9
>
> --- angedella isafella <notmusic@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > dear list: I hated the latest issue of Urb "the
> > future issue" .The most
> > Insulted part was the part about R and b music .The
> > notion that new soul can
> > be made by including jungle and techno influences.
> > I imagine black people
> > thinkig"Is the girl crazy" ? R and B is the music
> > that consistently has to
> > marry innovation and mass appeal with formualic
> > production and
> > mechanization. Given the constraints these guys
> > operate under they have
> > quite a job . The future of soul isnt some four
> > four stuff though im sure
> > this is some place for it. Im also tiredd of hearing
> > about the detroit crew
> > of techno inventors. Gee they are in every other
> > issue > i liked Big fun but
> > hey it was a while ago.
> >
> >
> > >From: "christopherotto" <cotto1@gl.umbc.edu>
> > >To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
> > >Subject: Re: spin
> > >Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 07:42:38 -0800
> > >
> > > > 3) call '99 the year of the "house music
> > revival"
> > >
> > >when was the first house era?
> > >
> > > > The way trends pop up and die off is so
> > disgusting
> > > > because they're a complete fabrication by
> > publications
> > > > like this. Magazines of this calibre never have
> > > > existed to celebrate music or any of the joy it
> > brings,
> > > > only to shout about what's currently (and thus
> > definitely
> > > > not permanently) cool. I could care less about
> > being
> > > > "commercial" vs. being "indie", who cares if
> > Spin is
> > > > "commercial", it's irrelevant: it's not about
> > the music.
> > >
> > >wordemup. my favourite parts were:
> > >
> > >1. their wholsale appropriation of design style
> > from the face the other
> > >year
> > >2. "the big beat invasion"
> > >4. the fashion spread about bboying that looked
> > like it was video grabbed
> > >from beat street
> > >
> > >also the articles that talk about modest mouse as
> > if they were part of
> > >fluxus or something are a little hard to look at-
> > it is kind of hard to
> > >find
> > >a balnce though in music writng between media
> > theory type stuff and saying
> > >thing slike " this shit is dope" but when it works
> > it is great
> > > the face, surface, urb, and xlr8r have some
> > decent stuff sometimes on
> > >this
> > >tip.
> > >
> > >christopherotto
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Jonathan
> > >
> >
> >
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