have to say that although i too said hip hop was dying i didn't mean that
hip hop itself was dying but more or less hip hop as i once knew and loved
it was
although there are a few good moments here and there
there is still dilated peoples, mos def, madlib, the coup, de la soul, hi
tek and tabli kweli, blue black and asheru, divine styler, bahamidia,
medusa, and other cats like that
and it is true that hip hop is so global...everywhere you go there is some
form of hip hop
only difference in other countries more than just the music element is still
alive
dance, graf, and djing are important too
the mc is not king everywhere else
and truth be told, they love the jay z's, dmx's, ja rule's, et al, all
across the world
From: Calvin Ho <chairmancal@atomicattack.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 11:36:24 +0800
To: <b.graff@lycos.com>, <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
Subject: Re: Hiphop...dieing?
I agree. Though music today whether it'll be this hip hop thread or any
other music has matured in music production 20 fold. Even back in those
dinosaur period days of hiphop, tracks which were somewhat underground ended
up in the top 40 anyway, especially in the UK. House and hiphop tracks like
Tyree Cooper, Stakker Humanoid, A Guy Called Gerald, Cookie Crew, Bomb Da
Bass, and Beats International (the list can go on) were doing tracks which
to me considered to be pioneering but remained on the commercial tip too,
and thinking back then it might be just coincidence that this happened or is
it the unavoidable two sides of the coin in the music business, not having
one without the other?
I wonder if we can start putting a collaborated list together of artists who
are doing the "AJ theory" in hiphop.
Calvin
>
> I'm going to have to fall in the middle of the "hip hop is/isn't dying" issue.
> I think the growing influence (domination?) on culture and the way so many
> artists across the globe are incorporating it is proof of its continued
> potency.
>
> On the other hand, rap has split into so many different segments that it's a
> matter of time before somebody starts describing one of the branches as
> something independent of hip-hop. I think that is part of the maturation that
> someone else spoke of. Also, the question of who or what is driving the
> direction of rap remains open to interpretation.
>
> Additionally, I'm not sure if those of us who are in our late 20s and up will
> ever feel the same attachment to today's artists as we do about those from the
> golden age of the late 80s and early 90s. Times were different back then and
> there weren't as many commercial pressures on artists as there are now. So
> even though Jay-Z is an extremely gifted lyricist and Ludacris, Cash Money and
> Nelly all have blazing beats, the fact that they're blatant about their
> commercialism makes some people want to deny them their props.
>
>
> ---
> B.Graff
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>
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