From: Olaf Molenveld (olaf@interactivelink.nl)
Date: Wed Dec 04 2002 - 16:16:33 CET
a cd is made from plastic, a 12" made from vinyl....what's the difference
when you're talking about demateralisation? i can understand when you use
vinyl and CD's compared to mp3's....because then you're comparing physical
media to a digital encoding-format ie a data stream which is independent
from the storage medium...
btw, this entire discussion was also done decades ago when recordings came
into fashion mainly using jukeboxes....then it was jukeboxes vs. real
orchestra's/performers..
Olaf
----- Original Message -----
From: adario <adario@thingsburnup.com>
To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 4:06 PM
Subject: DMP555 (RE: [acid-jazz] Scratching digitally (from New York Times))
> Hi everybody,
> Speaking of digital turntables, anybody got an opinion or seen any reviews
> of the Pioneer DMP555?
> http://www.pioneerprodj.com/products/dmp555/dmp555.mv
>
> Thanks in advance,
> a dario
>
> btw, there's also an argument to made in favor of digital audio from an
> ecological/economic viewpoint. CD's and MP3's are a manifestation of
> "dematerialization", ie the transition from a material economy to a
services
> economy. This phenomenon is a central tenet of sustainable development.
> With that said, I still love the material qualities of vinyl. Even the
> negative stuff. There's a random "pop" noise on a recent mix that I did
> that somehow just adds a little more flavor.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Olaf Molenveld [mailto:olaf@interactivelink.nl]
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 4:33 AM
> >To: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
> >Subject: Re: [acid-jazz] Scratching digitally (from New York Times)
> >
> >
> >don't forget that cost can also be a very important aspect in it all....
> >you'll notice that a lot of the CD DJ hate comes from people that have
> >collected a huge vinyl collection over the years... when you have to
build
> >your vinyl collection from scratch now it's *very* expensive with the 12"
> >prices these days.... wait a few weeks, maybe 2 months and a good (2)CD
> >compilation with unmixed full 12" mixes appears for the price of 2
> >12"es....this one might have 20 tracks, of which 10 are useable....for a
DJ
> >that doesn't need to have all the latest stuff (although you can ofcourse
> >download tracks from the internet, both legally or from restricted
forums,
> >and you probably can play the music out weeks before its for sale in the
> >shops) because he or she doesn't DJ 3 times every weekend the CD way can
be
> >a very interesting route...
> >
> >Olaf
> >
> >
> >> Incidentally, a friend of mine who lives overseas recently told me he
> >> rocked this massive playing his entire set on Final Scratch, I told
this
> >to
> >> another DJ friend who commented, "Man, he sold out." Then I told him my
> >> overseas friend had a great response...I also neglected to tell the
> >> commenting friend that this overseas DJ lives in Indonesia, where vinyl
> >> isn't exactly easy to come by...So all this vinyl purism is
> >coming from an
> >> American/European-centric point of view.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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